vB4 Support

[mawby]

Just a quick question to see if any testing has been done with vBulletin 4 yet? Will vBPicGallery work or will we have wait for an update?

[Greg]

Well, I don't have vB 4 if that gives you a clue.

I'll see what it's gonna take to give you the proper updates.

[Greg]

Nope, just checked. I won't be able to test code in beta. File a complaint at vBulletin.com. They have not been very helpful so far though.

[bigH2O]

vB 4 is in closed beta. If you didn't apply for beta access six months ago, you won't have access to it until it goes gold. Don't blame me, I'm just the messenger, I'm not on the vB team.

But has anybody noticed how bad the new style is on the eyes? I can't spend more than about 10 minutes on the site before I start to get a headache. I know the new code is css based and should allow us to easily adjust the contrast so that it's easier to view... but if vBulletin doesn't give us some options on style selections on their own site, I don't know how I'm going to be able to keep up with the topics there. I just can't stare at that site for the amount of time it takes to go through 300+ messages per day without my eyeballs boiling out of my head. Might as well be staring into a microwave running at full power with the door open.

It's probably on purpose. There's been so much griping over there over the last few months due to lack of communication and the rediculous pre-release purchase that membership complaints have reached a boil. Maybe they don't want us on the site for the time being.

[Greg]

Looks like SMF. I hate it.

[demojames]

Sorry to hijack thread- Anyone have any updates on if this is working on VB4?

[bigH2O]

Well they finally went public with beta on vb4, and now it's in something like RC4, and they've set a release date for Monday (Dec 21). My advice from what I've seen is to stay far, far away from the initial gold release of vB4. It's nowhere near ready, and they're rushing this release for some reason that no sane person can figure out.

CSS doesn't even validate on their own site yet. Their main page throws up over 600 CSS validation errors, enough to cause any spider to give up and go away without indexing any content. Yet they want to shove it down our throats right before Christmas when we'd much rather be spending time with our families rather than listening to the screams and wails of clients who need help because their sites got broken when they tried to update to this half baked software.

I can't speak for Greg, but if vbPicGallery was my project, I'd be telling people not to expect anything out of me until vB4 gets stable, and my guess would be it'll be March before things settle down. I've already told all of my clients not to even think about upgrading their sites yet, and if they do they're on their own because I'm not gonna get burned trying to pull their butts out of the fire.

[Greg]

I not prepared to match their release date with vBPicGallery. I found the GOld release date a bit unrealistic.

But as I have said in the past, vBulletin appears to make most of their money at christmas when little kids get money and open forums that last about as long as vacation. I think the are out to collect that money from the kids still.

None of my customers are requesting upgrades to vB4. In fact I have been told by some they are not considering it at all at this time.

[yjhys]

Originally Posted by Greg

I not prepared to match their release date with vBPicGallery. I found the GOld release date a bit unrealistic.

But as I have said in the past, vBulletin appears to make most of their money at christmas when little kids get money and open forums that last about as long as vacation. I think the are out to collect that money from the kids still.

None of my customers are requesting upgrades to vB4. In fact I have been told by some they are not considering it at all at this time.

GOld release is out!

[Greg]

Turns out that vBulletin 4 is so unique and rewritten, it has the same security issues and previous versions. So, vBulletin 4 PL1 is out already.

Oh well, at least they can get their Christmas income from the kiddies. What a poor statement about the management, marketing and programming of vBulletin.

While I see many things in there that are very good progress, the rush to release of vB 4 as a half baked project is not encouraging.