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daveoily
05-17-2006, 12:46 PM
I need to check this before I start carving wires apart and screwing them up...

bigH2O said in the "how to setup a two computer network." (http://www.cpurigs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2449)...

"If you are trying to connect two computers directly without going through a hub or a switch, you are going to need a cross-over cable instead of a standard Cat 5 patch cord. In a cross-over cable, pins 2&3 are swapped and pins 4&6 are swapped on one end of the cable. If you're not making your own cables, you can buy a cross-over cable from your local computer supply shop."

well, i have some cat 5 lying around, and no router or anything else, so just to be a real tightwad, I want to use this method to connect an old laptop and an old pc, both have network cards, and this may seem like a dumb question, and it is, but i've never done this sort of cabling before, although it might be fun.

What exactly is meant by "pins 2&3 are swapped and pins 4&6"?

... if my guess is right, it means the wires somewhere along the line are crossed, and it wouldn't matter if you worked numbering the wires left to right or right to left as the cat 5 is usually symmetrical (another guess but I can't see how it could be any other way)

so I just get some connectors, cut into the appropriate wires and splice them together, that would convert the cable?

it would be very useful to know before i go cutting stuff up :)

bufordt
05-17-2006, 01:22 PM
I need to check this before I start carving wires apart and screwing them up...

bigH2O said in the "how to setup a two computer network." (http://www.cpurigs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2449)...

"If you are trying to connect two computers directly without going through a hub or a switch, you are going to need a cross-over cable instead of a standard Cat 5 patch cord. In a cross-over cable, pins 2&3 are swapped and pins 4&6 are swapped on one end of the cable. If you're not making your own cables, you can buy a cross-over cable from your local computer supply shop."

well, i have some cat 5 lying around, and no router or anything else, so just to be a real tightwad, I want to use this method to connect an old laptop and an old pc, both have network cards, and this may seem like a dumb question, and it is, but i've never done this sort of cabling before, although it might be fun.

What exactly is meant by "pins 2&3 are swapped and pins 4&6"?

... if my guess is right, it means the wires somewhere along the line are crossed, and it wouldn't matter if you worked numbering the wires left to right or right to left as the cat 5 is usually symmetrical (another guess but I can't see how it could be any other way)

so I just get some connectors, cut into the appropriate wires and splice them together, that would convert the cable?

it would be very useful to know before i go cutting stuff up :)


http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/cat5_cables_.htm#makecrossover
You are basically doing one end of the cable to 568A specs and the other end to 568B specs.

Here is another good site:
http://www.lanshack.com/make-cat5E.aspx

daveoily
05-17-2006, 01:31 PM
thanks for that, I'll get onto it later in the week :)

daveoily
05-19-2006, 08:51 AM
so, if I'm reading this right, i connect the orange wire to the whiter one of the white/green pair, and connect the bluer one of the blue/white pair to the greener wire of the white/green pair, is that right?

Is bufordt banned? That's what it says under his name :( If so, why? he's been very helpful!

bigH2O
05-19-2006, 09:45 AM
Basically you want to hook it up like this diagram. Sorry for the confusion

Bufordt is taking a vacation. He'll be back in a few days.

daveoily
05-19-2006, 09:51 AM
:D Ah! thanks very much :) that's super clear :)

right, time to start a cutting methinks :D

daveoily
05-19-2006, 11:17 AM
Woo, that's cool, I've never done any of this networking before :)

now surfing on 2 screens, (like I just need that!)

haven't figured out how to transfer files between them yet, but i guess that's another post...

thanks guys :D